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Post by alwaysparis on Jan 23, 2019 2:34:43 GMT -5
So much for the afterglow indeed... I mean... bloody hell! WTF just happened? I’m having a hard time trying to put my thoughts in order, because I am kinda stunned, but let’s see if I can string a couple sentences together... Arturo Ortecho >>>>>>>> Jeff Parker. Just saying. 1. Michael and Isabel’s scare tactics left me completely underwhelmed 2. I think I like Liz a little less. I mean, I get that her sister died and that is sad, but it’s been 10 years - get over it already 3. Max is a cowboy. There is something so fundamentally wrong with that picture that I think it’s throwing me off. Plus the whole macho cowboy swagger thing is kind of a turn off for me... 4. I’m not currently invested in the Max and Liz relationship and I don’t think they’re a good match... what is wrong with me?  5. Liz/Maria/Alex three-way hug made my day  6. I am still supremely invested in the Michael/Alex thing. I mean, with the old show Michael was my least favorite character but this time around I think he’s one of my favorites... I’m seeing some character depth and I am digging the curls in the sun  7. I like Cameron. I really do. I want to see more of her, even if it is shagging Max (I think he deserved to blow off some steam after being so directly blown off) 8. By the way, is Liz suddenly the bad guy in this show? Did she just tell Kyle that Max gave her the handprint and accused him of murder after she promised not to tell? Not cool, Chica. You wanted to ask, you had your chance. Breaking the boys heart and then ratting him out to the hunky ex-boyfriend who is working with the military is not acceptable behavior. 9. Dear show runners, please fix this bullshit and make me like M/L again! And finally 10. OH MY GOD! I might have hyperventilated a bit, but that was hot! Go new OTP! I have to say that I’m team Malex right now. I want entire episodes of them working out their shit and then working the shit out of each other, please! P.S.: I need more Maria in this show. I don’t think my opinions are very popular right now (from your comments), but I can’t help it. I’m missing the magic Shiri and Jason brought to these roles! |
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Post by RachelEm on Jan 23, 2019 8:12:04 GMT -5
1. lol. I kept looking at Isobel thinking that her face could try a little harder to look intimidating. Why did she have to suck her finger like that? Underwhelming indeed, but still douchey. 2. I feel this statement in the sense that she was not my favorite this episode. But people responding to grieving and accepting death differently. I just hope the writer's don't stretch this arc and her behavior out too far. Because I'll get over it. Fast. 3. LOL. I think a lot of people are going to dislike Cowboy Max, because it's so fundamentally non-Max from the OG. But I like it. And I imagine if he had stayed in Roswell after graduation and took up police work with OG Sheriff Valenit, that he might've ditched his converse sneakers for that look too (y'know if S3 hadn't happened). It definitely doesn't bother me, but if cowboy machoism is a turn off for you anyway, I don't think it's going to improve. 4. Did you become disinvested with M/L from this episode only or have you felt this way from the beginning? Because this episode was NOT M/L friendly and MAlex definitely, hands-down, stole this episode and all our hearts and all our feels. Then with this about face from Liz (thanks to some distressing information, sure), we now don't know what's going to happen with them so I think it's okay you're not invested in them yet. I think Michael and Alex are fine, capable, beautiful substitutes for our hearts. <3 5. OG 3 - this made my whole day! Sad it was short-lived a little. But I definitely want more, and I definitely need a backstory from them. Pronto. 6. All of this. I mean I enjoyed Michael on the old show, but I think I'm going to love this version so much more. Not that OG Michael didn't have a devestating past, but here we're getting to see it. And oh my GOD, he gutted me and then I melted into a pile of goo when he told Alex "I don't look away. Not completely." And I'm a mess! I love them so much. 7. Meeeeh. I'm sure she's nice. If she's an original character they're just naming Cameron. If not, then she's a plant. Probably from Alex's dad. I mean, she was pretty badass during that shoot off with Wyatt. I did enjoy her there, but not at the end. And yes, Max is a big boy and can blow off steam with whomever he chooses, especially after that shattering moment with Liz. I can accept that. But I don't have to like it.  Seriously, it's happened to us twice now and I want to flick someone in the forehead. And I want that person to be Jason Katims just on principle. 8. Yeaaaaah what was that? Kyle definitely knows now. She was subtle at all! This had me all kind of displeased. Pft. Fix it, writers. (That probably means us.) 9. Quickly, please! 10. LMAOOOOOO. "Working out their shit and then working the shit out of each other." OMG, SarahMarie said something very simliar to that and I almost spit out my wine. But yes, I do agree with this sentiment. OTP for sure. I love them so much. I want them to get married and adopt thoughts of baby aliens together. No one is going to hold a candle to Shiri and Jason. It was so young and pure. But these are different characters almost totally, so I'm definitely invested enough to see what kind of different magic they can produce for us. Hopefully. If the writers don't screw it up. Max and Liz aside, you know you have to stay for MAlex. And you know you got to write us some beautiful MAlex fiction. The sooner the better. |
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Post by RachelEm on Jan 23, 2019 10:55:57 GMT -5
Rereading the above and I want to apologize for the many errors and overall incoherence. My only excuse is that I had literally just woken up *shrug*
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Post by alwaysparis on Jan 23, 2019 10:56:27 GMT -5
Oh, I'm definitely not going anywhere. And as soon as im done with my final project (due tomorrow evening), I'm gonna start drabbling the shit out of those 2 to see if i can get some creative juices flowing On anothe note, i need to applaud the writers for changing the name of the second episode from "The Morning After" to "So Much For The Afterglow". Really fucking appropriate. :/ |
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Post by alwaysparis on Jan 23, 2019 14:04:22 GMT -5
Okay, so I'm at the computer lab now and can go back to seeing things in full size (I caught a virus on my laptop yesterday, so it's out of commission till I'm back home). So now I can answer you properly, RachelEm. 1. LMAO YES! Was she trying to be intimidating or seduce a weird porn addict? 2. I am already over it. I mean, where is the magic, Liz? The sassy-ness was cute, but the obsession is not. 3. No. No cowboy!Max. Go away, you're ruining my crush. 4. I just haven't been able to feel their connection at all. I mean, I fell in love with OG Max/Liz in the Pilot. I couldn't stop myself, I saw it (completely unaware of what I was about to watch - an unfortunate promo made me assume it was show about angels) and I said: "Yep, that's it. That's the perfect couple, they were made to be together and nothing will ever change that opinion". This time I watched the Pilot 6 times trying to get that magic and I'm still not convinced. Michael and Alex, though. I could tell when they first met in the trailer that there was something going on there, and by the end of the episode it was all over for me: "Yep, that's it. That's the perfect couple, they were made to be together and nothing will ever change that opinion". So yeah, they're my substitute this time around. 5. Oh, and I loved when Maria talked to Alex about the mystery boy who kissed him in high school. Good to know he's not in the closet!! 6. See, the thing is I didn't like Brendan's Michael. Tragic past or not, he was not a character I connected with at all. And I started the show with a little prejudice against Michael's Michael this time, but this last episode melted that away completely. I was a mess too.  7. Go flick Jason Katims' forehead. I'll hold him down for you. 8. So annoyed at that. 9. 10.  |
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Post by lillydove on Jan 23, 2019 16:47:58 GMT -5
Bahhh! I've been waiting all day to reply and I'm finally on a computer and can comment! 1. That scene was weak. Especially since curly hair cute face Michael showed us his true colors, there's no way I'm seeing him as a tough guy anymore. 2. I will say that one thing I've learned personally about trauma is that shit don't go away when you just run away from it. I believe it gets worse, because it compounds in other ways and experiences over the years. Liz ran from that shit 10 years ago. Sounds like she didn't escape it either, what with the personal drama that Michael and Isobel revealed during their porno-intro-scene. I think her reaction is pretty spot on ten years later. This is not our Liz - sweet, sheltered, trusting, fully- and- wholly-loved-by-her-family Liz - who could give in to the magic. This is a Liz whose mother suffered from mental illness, had hallucinations, and probably had a lot of damage from that before her sister started showing the same things. A sister she clearly adored and loved from what we've seen. Then her sister dies and Liz probably has a part of her that wants to blame Rosa for making those choices, but her sister had mental illness, so it complicates it. She probably wants to blame her for losing her chance with Max back then, but how can she do that and not feel terrible. I mean, she's dead, it's not like she meant to ruin everything, so what good would it do to blame her? And on top of that, she wants to mourn, because she loved her. But her sister killed two innocent girls and now they're in a town that, even 10 years later still won't let her family do that and move on. At least for those rednecks people, it's simple. Blame Rosa. (Still not healthy 10 years later, but simple.) That's not as easy for Liz. So, she runs away. Compartmentalizing all that trauma and unresolved grief to the point where I'm SURE it seeped its way out into her personal life. And now she's back. Now she has to start the process she put off for 10 years. Saying all that to say, I feel that, girl. So, I'm going to give her some time. 3. I'm not a big cowboy swagger fan either, but other than that cowboy shit, so much of what he says and does reminds me of old Max. Wouldn't mind a tone down on it, but I'll deal. 4. I don't think anything is wrong with you for not being as invested! I think sweet high school Liz's reaction and damaged grown-up Liz's reactions are realistically very different and I'm not surprised DGULiz's reaction isn't all magic and love. SHSLiz while scared and suspicious about Murder Aliens at first, was able to be more naturally trusting and give into falling for Max easier. Which made it easier for us to fall in love with them that way. IMO. I still felt the instant connection between DGULiz and Max in the first episode, but I appreciated this realistic reaction given their new backgrounds and their age. 5. I LOVED THE OG TRIO. 6. Michael and Alex are the OTP of the show right now. Michael's line "I never really looked away" just struck me through the heart. I also wasn't partial to Michael the first time around, but I already love him here. 7. Yes, I admit...my initial reaction was omfg that better not be the new Tess. I also didn't care that they slept together, normal reaction and they're older. But I'm curious to see what they do with her character throughout the series. Jury is still out for me, but objectively I like her. 8. Eh. I don't think she's the bad guy. I think she's questioning everything she ever knew and felt about Max since he kept the truth from her. I understand why he did (not fully because we don't have the whole story), but Liz definitely doesn't. RachelEm, if you died and ten years later I found out AJ knew more than he'd let on and could've been involved, HE DEAD TO ME! lol I think she trusts Kyle right now, and probably questioned ever trusting and pining for Max for as long as she did. She feels betrayed. She'll get over it. The fallout of her burst to Kyle will be interesting to watch. 9. I still think Max and Liz are OTP too. They'll get it together. 10. BUT DAYUM, I am so glad we have MAlex to enjoy while they figure their shit out! Also, I will help with the holding down and flicking of Jason Katims forehead. 17 years later... guess we need to let that go too? ...NEVER! |
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Post by RachelEm on Jan 23, 2019 17:32:51 GMT -5
Can I just say that I am so glad that we are all so in love with, and rooting for in such a hardcore fashion, the most surprising couple of the new fandom? Like, I'm definitely rooting for Max and Liz. Without a doubt, I hope they get their shit together soon, but Michael and Alex are just fucking goals. lillydove, lucky for you AJ is a good egg and that probably won't happen. But if it ever does, I'm glad you got my back! alwaysparis, are you going to be back home for next week's episode? ( What is the title of that anyway, so we can get the new thread up? Nevermind! It's "Tearin' Up My Heart! lol Which is what we've named another thread) What's the time difference? We probably won't be able to watch it at the same time, huh? We need to start promoting the board some more. We're going to spam Roswell, NM Rewind on IG and FB. Where else should we spam? On the other hand, if it's just us, I'm good. 'Cause we're a hoot! |
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Post by lillydove on Jan 23, 2019 19:25:49 GMT -5
Rewatching the episode with Good Egg now. I just realized Kyle has to keep Liz’s secret or he’ll admit to showing classified files to someone outside Project Shepard. So... I feel better.
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Post by alwaysparis on Jan 24, 2019 1:35:05 GMT -5
Okay. So I am finally back to my room and I am rewatching the episode so I have something to say that wasn’t written at 3am after watching it and just being angry... So I’m watching and pausing so I can really organize my thoughts. 1. The first scene with Max & Liz was really sweet. I actually believe in them for that moment. But then again, when she says “it’s just a kiss”, I still think it’s a little callous because for him it’s obviously not - otherwise he wouldn’t be waiting for the connection to be over and would have “just kissed” her. 2. LMAO on that pre-historic laptop. Just saying... but I now kinda see their point further on about Max being a little out of balance. He does seem a bit out of control - too violent, almost potentially beyond OG Michael’s WDAMYK levels. 3. Ugh the porno licking *shudders* - it actually made me forget about the whole fiancé thing. Is that guy gonna show up too? Plus, violent Max does nothing for me, even if he’s coming to Liz’s protection. There’s no tenderness in that scene - it kind of negates the feels I got from the teaser. 4. Arturo Ortecho is the best character in this show. And I do get Liz’s anger/grief at this point. I’m not annoyed with it yet. 5. First MAlex interaction of the episode, and the building of Michael’s character is becoming very clear... it’s like I can see every defense mechanism coming to life. Starts with teasing that’s really a question (you start showing up too often I’ll think you like me), tries a touch to see if it’s welcome. The he gets rebuffed so he lashes out (I was pretty wasted), then when Alex turns you can clearly see the pain in his face... Plus Alex seems all over the place - he does not know how to deal with Michael at all, poor thing. 6. Have I mentioned at any point how much I like Kyle? And not only because Michael Trevino is hottest guy in the town, but because he’s sweet and genuinely worried about her. Not gonna lie, I could go loyalist here. 7. Now, Isabel on the other hand, there is something about her I just don’t like, but I can’t put my finger on it... in Portuguese I’d say she’s “without salt” but that doesn’t translate... I don’t know, plus attorney!Ken who she’s married to seems a bit like a cardboard cutout. 8. The church scene. I felt for Max there. It’s so clear he would do anything she asked. But the John Wayne shot from the back looking over his shoulder still ruined it for me. What can I say? Cowboys are not my cup of tea. 9. I love Cam... 10. I need more Maria/Liz/Alex in my life. I just noticed how short the scene was, and I want more of it. Plus, Alex saying he hadn’t noticed Michael got hot was priceless! 11. I still like Kyle, by the way. He has good intentions. But if Liz sees a handprint on Rosa’s dead body, she should just go and ask Max point blank about it. Just saying. What does she think he would do? Kill her?? She’s obviously angry enough that she could just ask. I mean, this is just unnecessary drama. 12. Still don’t like Isabel, but please Michael, you’d do anything for Alex... 13. Glad he saved my Arturo, but violent Max is still not doing it for me. Will the douchebag he tried to kill also get a handprint and a psychic link? Is this a karma thing, like save a life, someone has to die to restore the balance? 14. Go Michael for the rescue! But for fuck’s sake, lose the cowboy hat! 15. Alex and Maria discussing MAlex first kiss was the sweetest thing I ever watched, though. *sighs* 16. Scene at the desert broke my heart, because she shattered Max, then asks him about Rosa and not what she wants to know. Then she pretends to be all sweet, but it’s so fake and she’s dangling the possibility of a relationship (we could get to know each other) to study and investigate him. It’s manipulative and cruel and I almost barfed. This is where I stopped liking Liz. She’s being underhanded and heartless. And he’ll let her poke and prod him, because he’d do anything for her, and that it NOT okay with me. 17. MAlex makes my life worth living, I don’t think I need to say anything more on that subject - this scene in the desert was everything. 18. And I maintain my position on the Max/Cameron sex. Good for him (and for us, shirtless Nathan Parsons is hot)! 19. And the ending, with the avenger Liz you know how I feel. That hasn’t changed, but Kyle is growing even more on me. Okay, I think I have my feelings about this sorted now. Thanks for listening and putting up with my ramblings!!! I won’t watch live next week because I’ll be 5 hours ahead, but I promise I’ll do the same as this week and come sort out my thoughts with you girls later!! Can I spam the board link now, then? Have you talked to the admins at RF like you wanted? Yay!!! |
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Post by lillydove on Jan 24, 2019 7:45:22 GMT -5
1. Lol, I saw that as her trying to "play it cool" rather than actually feeling nonchalant about it. I don't think Liz fully appreciates the depths of Max's affection for her. From their conversations, I can she how she'd convince herself he's not really wanting to go there with her, she admitted feeling brushed off to Maria. But I like that she's being confident and saying what she wants here, even if she's trying to disclaimer it as no big deal to him. Sad that everything we really know about how he really feels, seems to come from conversations with other characters, or stuff we can pick up from what he's done and said to her, because we're not cautious and guarded like Liz. 2. Yeah, that tornado inside him... I want to use that in my story where he's feeling an echo of Liz's feelings too. She's a fucking tornado right now for sure. 3. I have a feeling he's going to reappear and cause some drama. Probably right after Liz and Max get together with our luck lol 4. AMEN and agreed! 5. Yes, agreed! I am loving the way they are building Michael's character in this show! I can't wait to see more of that and how MAlex progresses and they work out their shit. And then work the shit out of each other 6. I am loving Kyle in this version too! I'm glad they made him more than just a jock in this show, because BuddhaBoy Kyle in our world was so much better than that jock ass persona too. 7. I haven't thought about her in much depth, but her life does seem a little cookie-cutter cardboard right now. She's got the definition of "normal" that she probably worked hard to create. I think they'll flesh both of those characters out as that perfect life unravels. At least I hope. 8. LOL it's so weird seeing him that way. Especially after hearing what he was like as a teenager. 9. I liked her more the second time around too. 10. LOL, yeah. Way to play it cool, Alex. 11. I mean, right now she thinks he was involved in her sister's death. Even Kyle thought confronting the alien killer was a stupid move. And we like Kyle. Also, it's a CW show... I feel like there's going to be a lot of drama we think is unnecessary.  12. I LOVED THAT PART. I'm glad Isobel kind of put it into perspective for Michael. 13. My theory is now that the handprint on Liz has to fade and then he'll stop feeling her tornado of feelings. I'm running with that. 14. LMAO, your hatred of the cowboy hat throughout this post is my favorite part of it. 15. I want more Maria in our lives!! 16. Yeah, I didn't love that scene. I'm trying to keep her perspective in mind, but it's so hard knowing what we know about his feelings for her. 17. Everything. 18. Yeah, I'll take shirtless Max in any form or situation. Except Tess. That one still not okay. 19. When I think of what she's seen her dad go through because of Rosa's death, I can understand more her ruthless desire to get to the truth. I'm kind of glad she's more focused on Arturo than her feelings for Max. If she disregarded it, it kind of feels like she'd be disregarding everything they've gone through because of that accident. I'd want the truth too, even if it meant going after Max. She doesn't know what's true and what's real with him right now. But she knows her father and what all this did to him. Poor Arturo. If it wasn't Rosa's mistake and someone else was responsible, I'd be fucking furious that my dad went through that for 10 years because of someone else. What can I say, I'm loving this already. Especially all the fanfiction ideas it's springing to life for me. Can't wait for next week!! |
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Post by RachelEm on Jan 24, 2019 8:09:02 GMT -5
I won’t watch live next week because I’ll be 5 hours ahead, but I promise I’ll do the same as this week and come sort out my thoughts with you girls later!! Can I spam the board link now, then? Have you talked to the admins at RF like you wanted? Yay!!! I want to say yes!! It's been a week since I've messaged mods at RF (all of them), and someone has read it. Maybe they put my message in their moms forum and are currently waiting for a vote or something. But only a 1/4 of the mods and admins are even active on that board. *shrug* So I wanna say we can start spamming to get traffic here. I've linked RF in our rules post, so I feel like it's been properly credited? And if they come back with they don't like it, then I'll pay to change the forum name and we'll do a little revamp if necessary. lillydove - thoughts? |
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Post by alwaysparis on Jan 24, 2019 10:24:45 GMT -5
1. Maybe you’re right - I’m just defensive because I don’t like her much right now. 2. OMG please!!! I need this story!!! 3. Yeah, I think so too. 5. I am glad I amuse you!  6. I know, right? This is a Kyle I can definitely get behind! 7. I hope so too - though I was never an Isabel fan the first time around either. 11. You’re so right, I don’t know why I expected anything different. 14. You know what’s the weirdest part? I never knew I had anything against cowboys until now! 15. Seconded 18. I don’t think we’re ever going to get over that. EVER. 19. You’re right. I can respect that. This has now made my day! Get on with it, girl!!! |
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Post by alwaysparis on Jan 24, 2019 10:28:30 GMT -5
So I wanna say we can start spamming to get traffic here. Awesome! Thanks |
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Post by tasyfa on Jan 27, 2019 17:36:41 GMT -5
Can I just say that I am so glad that we are all so in love with, and rooting for in such a hardcore fashion, the most surprising couple of the new fandom? Like, I'm definitely rooting for Max and Liz. Without a doubt, I hope they get their shit together soon, but Michael and Alex are just fucking goals. This, so much. I am head over heels for this Michael in general. |
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Post by alwaysparis on Jan 27, 2019 17:53:55 GMT -5
This, so much. I am head over heels for this Michael in general. Michael Vlamis's Michael is just so vulnerable and wonderful! I am completely in love with him too, which is just bizarre because I really didn't like OG Michael. But new Michael is love. <3 |
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Seriously, it's happened to us twice now and I want to flick someone in the forehead. And I want that person to be Jason Katims just on principle.
